Quick builds can still be played, but in general people don't play them much since they're more of a casual thing, and players generally prefer to custom-build their fleets. They're also not tournament-legal unless someone made a casual QuickBuild tournament.

Standard Loadouts are different in that they have a Squad Point cost and are legal for Standard play (including tournaments). So if you hop on YASB for example, you can easily add some Standard Loadouts to your team -- they're just listed among the valid pilots.

Standard Loadouts are meant to be intermixed with either other Standard Loadouts, or custom-built pilots, your choice. So you could build Luke Skywalker and mix him with the SL Gavin and SL Wedge in the same list.

So Standard Loadouts are kind of what Quick Builds wanted to be. Instead of being balanced against other Quick Builds though, Standard Loadouts are balanced with the rest of the game. And like other pilots, their cost gets changed on occasion to rebalance them.

How are standard loadouts measured in relation to threat level then? We were playing an Epic Escalation match the other day but we couldn't find the threat level on Luke's standard loadout needed for gathering forces. It was only later that we figured out the core set quick build for Luke had the exact loadout for a threat level of 3. Is there a conversion doc somewhere for these standard loadouts? The Epic Battles kit has two obsolete point systems in 1.0 200 squad points and threat level points if that's the case.

If you go to AMG's site and look at the Ship Points document, you'll notice we have squad points for each pilot whether they're a normal pilot or Standard Loadout. For example, Darth Vader in the TIE Advanced x1, in the TIE/D Defender, and two Standard Loadout TIE Advanced x1s (Battle of Yavin and Starter Squad). If you go to YASB you'll see those same pilots with their costs.

So Darth Vader costs you 6, 7, or 9 of your 20 squad points. Standard Loadout costs are on the exact same scale as normal pilots.

If I remember right, Quick Build fleets are meant to add up to 8 thread in a standard-sized game (8 threat is equivalent to 2.0 edition's 200 points, or 2.5 edition's 20 points), and that would scale up an Epic game.

The only relationship we can go on is ratio of pilot cost to total squad size. So Darth Vader at 6/20, 7/20, or 9/20 points, a ratio of .3 - .45 of a squad. Both of his quick builds are the 6-pointers, so a .3 ratio. In quick builds, Vader is 4 our of 8 threat, so .5 of a quickbuild squad.

That might help you merge quickbuilds with normal squads (including the SL cards), but it'll be difficult because quickbuilds are entirely their own thing and are balanced and costed against one another and not against anything else.

I hope this at least gives you a starting point!

Thanks. It helps a bit. It'll take some work. We've invited a couple of mathematicians from the nearby university to come over and work the math. One went crazy, screamed "All remaining systems will bow to the first order" and ran away. We checked his work, he forgot to carry the Y-wing.

If no one else has a conversion sheet anywhere perhaps I'd take a crack at it if no one minds. 😀